Yoink: the Dock’s Stacks and iTunes files [UPDATE]

Yoink

The Feature Request

One of the most requested features for Yoink is being able to drag files from a Stack in the Dock to Yoink’s window. It sounds very simple and were I not the developer of this app, I myself would ask why Yoink hasn’t been able to do that from version 1.0.

Sadly, it’s not that simple.

 

stacks in dock

The Problem

For a reason unknown to me and maybe even a few people at Apple, the Dock does not use the general NSPasteboard used for dragging (NSPasteboard is responsible for being able to copy, cut and paste content from one document to another, but it also handles file drags, most generally with the NSDragPboard type).

No, the Dock uses a custom NSPasteboard for dragging (probably using NSPasteboard’s -pasteboardWithUniqueName method). The thing is, NSPasteboard doesn’t keep a public list around (and I don’t know of a private one, either) of the names of these unique pasteboards, which makes it impossible to check if a drag occurs on those uniquely named pasteboards.

This is not only the problem with the Dock, but also with iTunes – it also uses a unique pasteboard for its drags.

The Solution(s)

The thing is, even though the Dock uses a private pasteboard for its dragging handling purposes, if the Yoink window is visible, it still recognizes those drags. Which is a good thing, because knowing that, I can look for a solution.

As I see it, there are two possible solutions to this problem:

Possible solution #1: Have a hotkey to force Yoink’s window to show.

Although I like it, it does have its drawbacks. For starters, while you’re dragging with one hand, you don’t want to have to press a complex keyboard shortcut with the other. Many people I know use two hands to press shortcuts, so it would have to be an F-key, maybe. But pretty much all F keys are taken by default, and if not, other applications use them.
It’s more obvious than the second solution, but also harder to do while dragging.

Possible solution #2: Have hot corners or hot areas to drag to to force Yoink’s window to show

This one brings up several questions:
Should all corners be hot?
Should the user be able to define them?
Should it be corners only or should it be the entire edge of the screen?
And once the user drags an item to the hot corner to show Yoink’s window, they still would have to drag it from the corner to the window. So it’s a longer way for the mouse.
And of course, in those corners, files can’t be dropped. They corners would be small areas, yes, and even if it’s a rare case that you’d want to drop in a corner (I don’t think I’ve ever done it), it’s still a possible case.

The Decision

I’m leaning towards using hot corners, it kind of feels more natural to me for Yoink.

I’d like to implement hot corners in all four corners of all of your screens. And whichever hot corner you use, on that corner’s screen’s edge the Yoink window will show for you to drag to.

What do you think? Does that make sense? Please leave a note in the comments below, it means a lot to me :)

Addendum: General state of Yoink

Aside from the issue above, the next update for Yoink is coming along nicely.

x) Yoink will allow the creation of clippings (when you drag a selection of text out of an application), accept items from your Browser (images, text, links) or drag out pages of a pdf file in, say, Preview – Clipping Creation Video
x) You’ll have the option to collect several files dragged at once into one item in Yoink (here a video which explains it far better). This way you can more easily drag out several files at once. And yes, there’ll be a button to split those “file clusters” up again :)
x) I’ve also added new position options for Yoink’s window – not only can you put it on the center right or left edge of your screen, but also the top or bottom right and left. I didn’t implement the top center or bottom center (where the Dock is by default), because Yoink uses a tableview to display its items, and tables are based on rows, one below each other. That doesn’t work if the window is not vertical but horizontal.

The Decision – [UPDATEd]

Even though I stated above that I’m leaning towards hot corners, after a good night’s rest, I’m now more and more for a hotkey instead of hot corners.
First off, it is far more obvious for users since there’s a preference for the hotkey. The hot corners would be just there, whether people knew it or not.  Also I believe the principle of hotkeys is better known than hot corners, but don’t quote me on that.
Additionally, a hotkey would give the user the benefit to be able to hide Yoink’s window even if it’s got files in it, which has been another requested feature.

The more I think about it, a hotkey does make more sense. Wouldn’t you agree?

Thank you and take care,
Matthias

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3 thoughts on “Yoink: the Dock’s Stacks and iTunes files [UPDATE]

  1. On the topic of dragging. Would it be possible to allow dragging web links (from a web page) to yonik? Right now I 1st have to drag a web link (from a web page address) to the desktop to create the link file, then drag to yonik….

  2. hi Matthias.
    It’s a great app and I just bought it, but the hotkey doesn’t seem to be changeable – I changed it first to option \, as I don’t like using F keys, and it worked 2-3 times, and then not at all, and not other hotkey combinations (apart from the F5 key) worked. Any suggestions?
    Phil. (sparrowp at gmail dot com)

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